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let's go now, in fact, to steve liesman. he joins us live from the goldman sachs headquarters with the interview. steve? >> scott, thanks for the half hour of your show. really appreciate it. >> you bet. >> i am here with an all-star -- i'm calling it all-star trifecta. we have senator alan simpson. erskine bowles and lloyd blankfein of goldman sachs. we'll talk deficit, go inside washington and inside wall street for just about as long as they're willing to stay. gentlemen, thanks for joining us. erskine, you made a comment before we came on that said they didn't talk about the fiscal cliff or social security in the presidential debate. what does that tell you about the state of discussion about the issue of the deficit and the entitlement problems in this country? >> people are never going to understand how critical this particular time in history is. we have $7.7 trillion worth of economic events that are going to hit america in the gut in december. and in washington, they're doing nothing about it. nothing about it. we s
let's go now, in fact, to steve liesman. he joins us live from the goldman sachs headquarters with the interview. steve? >> scott, thanks for the half hour of your show. really appreciate it. >> you bet. >> i am here with an all-star -- i'm calling it all-star trifecta. we have senator alan simpson. erskine bowles and lloyd blankfein of goldman sachs. we'll talk deficit, go inside washington and inside wall street for just about as long as they're willing to stay. gentlemen,...
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carly and steve, thank you very much. we appreciate it. >> thanks. >> up next the main event. >> vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan, a frequent guest on "squawk" starts in five minutes on cnbc. [ male announcer ] the 2013 smart comes with 8 airbags, a crash management system and the world's only tridion safety cell which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. which can withstand over three and a half tons. if we want to improve our schools... ...what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. hey, it's sandra -- from accounting. peter. i can see that you're busy... but you were gonna help us crunch the numbers for accounts receivable today. i mean i know that this is important. well, both are important. let's be cle
carly and steve, thank you very much. we appreciate it. >> thanks. >> up next the main event. >> vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan, a frequent guest on "squawk" starts in five minutes on cnbc. [ male announcer ] the 2013 smart comes with 8 airbags, a crash management system and the world's only tridion safety cell which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. which can withstand over three and a half tons. if we want...
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steve liesman will be talking to them live. first he'll join us for a preview after this break. [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. celebrex can be taken with or without food. and it's not a narcotic. you and your doctor should balance the benefits with the risks. all prescription nsaids, like celebrex, ibuprofen, naproxen, and meloxicam have the same cardiovascular warning. they all may increase the chance of heart attack or stroke, which can lead to death. this chance increases if you have heart disease or risk factors such as
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. >> steve liesman is here. we were going to talk about the markets and we have rick santelli in chicago, both of them as well but steve, since you were talking during the break with ken langone. >> let steve talk to rick. >> hey, rick, how are you? >> good morning. >> so we talked. is that good? >> no. >> no, i just want to say, ken, if i look, guys could you put up the chart of the payrolls? if i look at the payroll chart and i talk about what i think is the number you guys actually believe, which is the 114,000. look at what happened, we've revised up the past couple months, we had that swoon in march, april, may and june, okay, the unemployment rate stayed about the same. look to the left, we had a couple months above 200,000. let's focus on the number you believe. and let's talk about what jack welch said. when i looked at what he said there was one number i think jack had wrong. jack was saying we need 150,000 to 200,000 jobs to lower the unemployment rate. that is, was old thinking. we've changed that num
. >> steve liesman is here. we were going to talk about the markets and we have rick santelli in chicago, both of them as well but steve, since you were talking during the break with ken langone. >> let steve talk to rick. >> hey, rick, how are you? >> good morning. >> so we talked. is that good? >> no. >> no, i just want to say, ken, if i look, guys could you put up the chart of the payrolls? if i look at the payroll chart and i talk about what i think...
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was steve jobs right when he said a tablet that size would be too small? >> the editor in chief of mashable. we've got a debate mehere, guys. rocco, it sounds like you think although it would be following amazon, it would be easy for apple to come in with a superior product, is that where you're coming from? >> definitely. i think apple is the kind of company that they can come in and kill a category. and i think that's what they want to do here. and i'm happy to see them doing it with what is rumored to be a $350 tablet and not a $199, you know, let's try to undercut amazon or google products. so if they come in with something premium that keeps that apple brand and the status of that apple brand, at that price point, i think they'll blow the category out. and i don't think it would be something that would hurt the image or hurt the brand too much. it's not a cheap knockoff. it's going to be something of apple quality. and -- >> with that in mind, if that's what they're doing, i'm onboard. >> something that elevates the category, lance, why do you disagre
was steve jobs right when he said a tablet that size would be too small? >> the editor in chief of mashable. we've got a debate mehere, guys. rocco, it sounds like you think although it would be following amazon, it would be easy for apple to come in with a superior product, is that where you're coming from? >> definitely. i think apple is the kind of company that they can come in and kill a category. and i think that's what they want to do here. and i'm happy to see them doing it...
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remember, steve jobs came back from a vacation for the iphone 4 antenna gate issue. >> 4, right. >> the 4. they went through other issues that smartphones had, wasn't really a problem. some people had problems. it went away very quickly. this is the most valuable company on the face of the planet. there is a lot of media coverage around it, and there is a lot of good press that goes out there when things go negative or positive on apple. it is very bipolar. i notice when things go negative, then people start questioning and stock goes down and they question the fundamentals and the fundamentals here are very, very strong. things aren't perfect. supply chain is not perfect. the ipad had issues on the displays. they were quickly reconciled and they went on to be home runs. this will be no different. >> brian, thanks for checking in with us. >> thanks. >> brian white. coming up, the biggest calls on the street and machines gone wild, the mysterious algorithm accounting for 4% of trading activity last week alone. new details on this developing story, and netflix soaring over the past two we
remember, steve jobs came back from a vacation for the iphone 4 antenna gate issue. >> 4, right. >> the 4. they went through other issues that smartphones had, wasn't really a problem. some people had problems. it went away very quickly. this is the most valuable company on the face of the planet. there is a lot of media coverage around it, and there is a lot of good press that goes out there when things go negative or positive on apple. it is very bipolar. i notice when things go...
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i look forward to hearing from steve. as we heard from jane wells california drivers are fuming after a spike in gas prices last week sent prices up past $5 a gallon. the governor now has called for the immediate release of a cheaper but less environmental friendly blend of gas to help bring prices down. david hackett is an energy consultant in irvine, california. he joins us from there. good to see you, david. good morning. is this the solution? >> this is a great step. going to the winter blend will allow the refiners reduce 10% of gasoline. that's like adding another refinery to the market. >> how much is this the structure of refining in that state. why is this happening? >> well, the evidence points towards refining problems. a fire at the chevron richmond refinery in august. power bumped knocked exxonmobil off line last monday. two of the big reasons. and then, of course, this is a difficult market to resupply from long distance. we're sort of an island. when there's a sudden supply short fall it's tough to get addi
i look forward to hearing from steve. as we heard from jane wells california drivers are fuming after a spike in gas prices last week sent prices up past $5 a gallon. the governor now has called for the immediate release of a cheaper but less environmental friendly blend of gas to help bring prices down. david hackett is an energy consultant in irvine, california. he joins us from there. good to see you, david. good morning. is this the solution? >> this is a great step. going to the...
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microsoft ceo steve ballmer has signalled a new direction. he's pointing to hardware and online services as its future, taking a page from longtime rival apple. he suggests microsoft may eventually build its new phones. >> that's a big shift. >> it's a huge shift for them to get into real hardware. they did make one of the -- i don't know if it was the surface or -- one of the prototypes for their tablet is manufactured by them. and it may be ultimately that you need to actually do the software. >> the software gets stolen by china and all these other places. they don't pay for it. so i guess you eventually want to shift to where -- >> i think that's part of it. but i think part of sit the seamless nature of what you're seeing by apple, and on some level by google, now that google owns motorola. i don't know if you saw this as well on ballmer. his income was published and he took a slight pay cut. he went from -- >> he's worth a billion dollars. >> but he was paid $1.4 million last year, or two years ago and went down to $1.3. >> that's a job
microsoft ceo steve ballmer has signalled a new direction. he's pointing to hardware and online services as its future, taking a page from longtime rival apple. he suggests microsoft may eventually build its new phones. >> that's a big shift. >> it's a huge shift for them to get into real hardware. they did make one of the -- i don't know if it was the surface or -- one of the prototypes for their tablet is manufactured by them. and it may be ultimately that you need to actually do...
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now it is from netflix a steve miller market. some people call me maurice, but this downgrade by bank of america -- >> i was doing the sound effects for maurice. >> i like that curious chainsaw you were doing. >> whatever i can do here. >> my wingman. >> your solid gold dancer. let's move on here to talk europe. german chancellor angela merkle visiting greece today for the first time since the european crisis began. she's meeting with greek prime minister this morning as protesters blame merkle for forcing painful cuts on greece in exchange for bailouts. meantime the imf is cutting the global forecast to 3.3% down from 3.5% and urging u.s. and european policymakers to deal with their fiscal issues or face a prolonged downturn. the imf is forecasting a contraction that underscores what we do already know and should be expecting out of the region. >> we are taking back one of the two rate hikes they had. there's not a single policy going on here. look what ireland was doing cramming down their banks. but if you can see, david, is t
now it is from netflix a steve miller market. some people call me maurice, but this downgrade by bank of america -- >> i was doing the sound effects for maurice. >> i like that curious chainsaw you were doing. >> whatever i can do here. >> my wingman. >> your solid gold dancer. let's move on here to talk europe. german chancellor angela merkle visiting greece today for the first time since the european crisis began. she's meeting with greek prime minister this...
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. >> steve king is ryan's long time supporter and friend. >> he's going to treat joe biden no different than he treats a person in a town hall. >> the the difference is that biden is going to be -- on him. >> he'd be tougher, but can't be any tougher than somebody screaming or hollering at him in a town hall. >> i'll debate these points anytime with you. just call me. my number's 262 -- >> if you're yelling, i want to ask you to leave. if you're just going to scream out like that, it's just not polite to everybody. >> still, ryan's brother says this process has been a difficult transition. >> he writes his own things. he's probably having more help now that he's not used to. >> far different from tobin ryan's early experience helping his 28-year-old brother prepare for this. his first congressional campaign debate. >> we had about you know, eight sheets of one sided paper that listed out issues and you didn't really have to prepare paul. you know, this is a guy that does more in a day, absorbs more in a day than i think is humanly possible. >> now, ryan sources insist that if four candi
. >> steve king is ryan's long time supporter and friend. >> he's going to treat joe biden no different than he treats a person in a town hall. >> the the difference is that biden is going to be -- on him. >> he'd be tougher, but can't be any tougher than somebody screaming or hollering at him in a town hall. >> i'll debate these points anytime with you. just call me. my number's 262 -- >> if you're yelling, i want to ask you to leave. if you're just going to...
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. >> reporter: back in wisconsin, ryan sought out local gop guru steve king, who agreed to give a 27-year-old ryan his first break. backing him for congress over several more experienced republican candidates. >> two was frankly not happy with me and one was a close, personal friend and today is not a close, personal friend. >> reporter: i guess you don't regret that decision. >> he has a youthful appearance it him and one of my friends, a democrat told me, he has an old soul. he gets it. >> reporter: but he also had an advantage in this part of wisconsin others didn't, the ryan name. paul ryan's uncle started ryan inc., a highly successful dirt moving company. his father was a prominent lawyer and until he died his name was on this law firm that towers over downtown. his first campaign was a family affa affair. his siblings and extended family pitched in. >> my wife, our little baby, my mother, we thought we were doing some fun, volunteer work for our brother. low and behold, eight months, 90 hours a week. >> reporter: at age 28, ryan won his first house race and was re-elected six t
. >> reporter: back in wisconsin, ryan sought out local gop guru steve king, who agreed to give a 27-year-old ryan his first break. backing him for congress over several more experienced republican candidates. >> two was frankly not happy with me and one was a close, personal friend and today is not a close, personal friend. >> reporter: i guess you don't regret that decision. >> he has a youthful appearance it him and one of my friends, a democrat told me, he has an old...
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last night you learned the attackers couldn't get into steve stevens' safe room so they put it on fire. what's next? >> that's right, zoraida. smoke and fumes filled the air. stevens and the security guard were really having trouble breathing. they decided to move to a bathroom where there was a little bit more air. that proved to be unsuccessful. they decided to try to leave through an adjacent berm. as they were moving there, the security officer, protocol deck tates he try to get out first, when he turned around, ambassador stevens and sean smith were not there, the security officer and several officers took turns going into the smoke-filled, fire-filled building to try to find ambassador stevens and shawn smith. they did find shawn but they did not find ambassador stevens. we found out later that ambassador stevens had been taken to a hospital. they found his pocket and found his cellphone and started calling people who were listed in the phone and finally found out, reached the embassy to tell them he was there. >> oh, my goodness. after u.s. personnel left the consulate, the atta
last night you learned the attackers couldn't get into steve stevens' safe room so they put it on fire. what's next? >> that's right, zoraida. smoke and fumes filled the air. stevens and the security guard were really having trouble breathing. they decided to move to a bathroom where there was a little bit more air. that proved to be unsuccessful. they decided to try to leave through an adjacent berm. as they were moving there, the security officer, protocol deck tates he try to get out...
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steve colbert had it right. obama's lost momentum, romney's gained momentum. i think sadly for the nation and also mistakenly for the obama campaign, having lost momentum they're talking about big bird. i just don't get it. >> i think obama has to go into the next debate, certainly joe biden on thursday, they have to regain momentum. obviously the debate led to a change in the polls. think romney can change himself and argue toe-to-toe with the president, i want to see the president come back strong next time. >> do you think this puts more pressure on joe biden to ante up in a way that could compromise him in the debate? >> i do. but obama in presenting himself for the next couple weeks, but he's always stepped up to the pressure. >> i think the pressure on biden is mostly to prevent these sort of media narratives as we all know too well they take on a life of their own. and often in negative ways. three weeks ago it was for romney. now it's obama. i think biden's job is to sort of stop the bleeding. he doesn't need -- he needs to be a narrative. >> he can't
steve colbert had it right. obama's lost momentum, romney's gained momentum. i think sadly for the nation and also mistakenly for the obama campaign, having lost momentum they're talking about big bird. i just don't get it. >> i think obama has to go into the next debate, certainly joe biden on thursday, they have to regain momentum. obviously the debate led to a change in the polls. think romney can change himself and argue toe-to-toe with the president, i want to see the president come...
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host: hold on a second, we are going back to steve. caller: i do have a personal experience in my own family. my father was very wealthy and i come from a very wealthy family. my mother really did not care about anything. the only people she wanted to hang around with or rich ladies. we had remade in our house and she did not do anything. she did not cook for us or anything. i was very disgusted with my own mother. from what i see of ann romney, the only thing she cares about is looking good and trying to look like she's 35 years old, caring about makeup and clothing. she was a cancer survivor, but she's not the only one. a lot of people are suffering from cancer. when mitt romney was putting his money overseas and exporting jobs overseas, she knew the whole thing. she should have said you should not do that. and it is against mormon religion to invest in a casino and things like that. it's against their religion. but she knew about it and let mitt romney do it, just to make money. she is -- ann romney is 10 times worse than mitt romne
host: hold on a second, we are going back to steve. caller: i do have a personal experience in my own family. my father was very wealthy and i come from a very wealthy family. my mother really did not care about anything. the only people she wanted to hang around with or rich ladies. we had remade in our house and she did not do anything. she did not cook for us or anything. i was very disgusted with my own mother. from what i see of ann romney, the only thing she cares about is looking good...
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steve king was check out of the district. he cared more about hanging out with michelle bachmann and dealing with border fence. he spent for time on fringe tea party issues than he did for jobs. that's why this race is in play. that's why we're all in. guest: they're all in without any money. the fact is steve king is going to win overwhelmingly. the only reason why the democrats spent money here, it was the democrats fantasy they had opportunity. we appreciate they wasted the money they could have spent helping out larry kissell. these are the choices the other side has to make. going off on fantasyland is not exactly great opportunity. host: let me get ed in, he's in pennsylvania, independent caller there. caller: good morning, both parties owned totally by the israeli lobby including billionaires like saban who bought the democratic party ten years ago. host: what evidence do you have of that? caller: the way they vote. the fact that two years ago, netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, joined session. he got 29 stan
steve king was check out of the district. he cared more about hanging out with michelle bachmann and dealing with border fence. he spent for time on fringe tea party issues than he did for jobs. that's why this race is in play. that's why we're all in. guest: they're all in without any money. the fact is steve king is going to win overwhelmingly. the only reason why the democrats spent money here, it was the democrats fantasy they had opportunity. we appreciate they wasted the money they could...
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steve says he would ask representative rye and about health care. ed says in relation to libya he said, why should any american vote for an administration whose present exhibits incompetence? the presidential candidate hitting the road today. obama leaving washington shortly for florida, a couple of events today. mitt romney is in north carolina and he will have a rally this afternoon at the u.s. cellular center in asheville. here on c-span, at 1:00, live to the national press club for the "ms" magazine celebration. up next, thomas donohue and business roundtable president and former michigan per governors talk about how the policies of both candidates might impact business and growth. this was hosted by that speaker agency leading authority. we will show you what we can until the advent gets underway. [applause] thank you for turning out here on this cold, wintry morning in washington, d.c.. it is now four weeks until america goes to the polls, and it could not be a better time to have this conversation about what is the single biggest issue in thi
steve says he would ask representative rye and about health care. ed says in relation to libya he said, why should any american vote for an administration whose present exhibits incompetence? the presidential candidate hitting the road today. obama leaving washington shortly for florida, a couple of events today. mitt romney is in north carolina and he will have a rally this afternoon at the u.s. cellular center in asheville. here on c-span, at 1:00, live to the national press club for the...
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host: steve in madison, wisconsin, hello. steve? and we are going to move on from steve to thomas in plainfield, indiana. thomas, you are on the "washington journal." what is your job situation? caller: good morning. i'm doing great. my job situation is wonderful. i'm very close to retirement. my wife and i only have so many months of retirement. i have been working just about all my life. i am a baby boomer. i have seen the ups and downs. host: what kind of work do you do? caller: i work for a shipping company. i work for one of the world's largest shipping companies. i work for flying tigers in chicago. it was headquartered in los angeles. we merged with this other large carriers, which you all know, a merger back in 1989. it brought me from chicago to minneapolis, which is a strong republican state. -- indianapolis, which is a strong republican states. i am a strong obama person. i worked the polls in my district. i am a democratic judge. but the state of indiana, as i say again, it went blue in 2008. but right now, i do not see
host: steve in madison, wisconsin, hello. steve? and we are going to move on from steve to thomas in plainfield, indiana. thomas, you are on the "washington journal." what is your job situation? caller: good morning. i'm doing great. my job situation is wonderful. i'm very close to retirement. my wife and i only have so many months of retirement. i have been working just about all my life. i am a baby boomer. i have seen the ups and downs. host: what kind of work do you do? caller: i...
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it turns out that i think what steve meant was he had some interesting ideas. i did not hear anything from them for many, many weeks. the candidate was on tv one night or one day, but i was watching it that evening, announcing his bid for president, around february, for every 12th, if i remember right. i watched it on tv. my opponent had been long dead, so i thought, that's it. been the phones start ringing again and people are calling me and i'm being asked to come to chicago to assess staff and to evaluate some of the operations. i thought, this sounds pretty good. they are for me a job in management. i thought, this is great. i said there's only one thing i have to do, because something has changed since december 26. i have to go home and talk to my wife and make sure -- this is a family affair, after all. so i talked to my wife, was not pregnant, and we wanted to make sure everything was ok with the baby. so we said we will go to the doctor on march 1 and things are ok, we'll do this. on march 1, we walked out of the doctor's office, the baby's heart was be
it turns out that i think what steve meant was he had some interesting ideas. i did not hear anything from them for many, many weeks. the candidate was on tv one night or one day, but i was watching it that evening, announcing his bid for president, around february, for every 12th, if i remember right. i watched it on tv. my opponent had been long dead, so i thought, that's it. been the phones start ringing again and people are calling me and i'm being asked to come to chicago to assess staff...
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we hear from the former lead adviser on the auto industry, steve radner. that will be live on c-span 3. >> c-span's campaign 2012, provides live coverage of all the debates. it is the only place you can see behind the scenes sights and sounds, before and after the debates. each question is available as a separate clip. reid streaming tweaks -- tweets . good to see c-span.org/debates. >> the vice-presidential debate is this thursday night. coming up live today, "washington journal." at 10:00 a.m., senator schumer explains how democrats should approach tax reform legislation. at 5:00 p.m. eastern, president obama campaigns at ohio university in columbus. all this month and until election day, c-span is a new live house and senate debates from around the country. tonight we are in western tonight we are in western virginia
we hear from the former lead adviser on the auto industry, steve radner. that will be live on c-span 3. >> c-span's campaign 2012, provides live coverage of all the debates. it is the only place you can see behind the scenes sights and sounds, before and after the debates. each question is available as a separate clip. reid streaming tweaks -- tweets . good to see c-span.org/debates. >> the vice-presidential debate is this thursday night. coming up live today, "washington...
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steve races a fair point. i do think that we will make -- and those circumstances, we would make a major effort. it would fail. one of the reasons, is because, and this is not just theoretical, i had discussions with the saudis, and when the king said if they get it, we get it, i was duty bound to describe what the consequences would be cured and after 10 minutes of being a highly eloquent on this subject, he said to me, if they get it, we get it. there is a reality that they see their main competitor from every standpoint. including a religious standpoint. having an advantage over them. having a technological advantage. having a military advantage. they are not going to accept that. i think the reason our policy is prevention is because we understand what the consequences will be if we do not succeed in maintaining this. that is the point about containment. containment does not prevent the saudis for making this decision to go ahead and do this. and our ability to persuade them along the lines of, look, you c
steve races a fair point. i do think that we will make -- and those circumstances, we would make a major effort. it would fail. one of the reasons, is because, and this is not just theoretical, i had discussions with the saudis, and when the king said if they get it, we get it, i was duty bound to describe what the consequences would be cured and after 10 minutes of being a highly eloquent on this subject, he said to me, if they get it, we get it. there is a reality that they see their main...
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i'm not talking about steve jobs. i'm talking about all around the factory line. we need to invest more in capital equipment. i think we have a slight polluted system at this point. the work ethic is still there. this is still in the time and the world. it would be here. we need to get beyond this. my god, the most profitable energy. god is looking down giving us and saying, "i hope you get this one right." we have a problem. we need to diagnose the problem. housing is turning. why are really growing at 2%? this one i cannot prove. europe is ok. there is a huge wet blanket out here. to me, as all the uncertainty around taxes, policy, fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling fiasco. we have this constant anti- business feeling. wherever i go, i have business people say the environment is terrible. it's not just banks. we have done this to ourselves. we shot ourselves in the foot. get rid of the wet blanket and we will take off. there was a great article that was reprinted in "the wall street journal" giving president-elect ronald reagan some advice. tell the same positive st
i'm not talking about steve jobs. i'm talking about all around the factory line. we need to invest more in capital equipment. i think we have a slight polluted system at this point. the work ethic is still there. this is still in the time and the world. it would be here. we need to get beyond this. my god, the most profitable energy. god is looking down giving us and saying, "i hope you get this one right." we have a problem. we need to diagnose the problem. housing is turning. why...
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i'm steve prosinski, editor of the gazette. many thanks to the chancellor, director of university relations, and many others, for providing a perfect venue for this exchange of opinions and ideasbetween denny rehberg and senator john tester a democrat. three veteran montana voters -- reporters will ask questions. montana public broadcasting and c-span are broadcasting tonight's debate. yellowstone public radio are broadcasting our forum also and the gazette is streaming it live on gazette.com. our timekeeper is a 20-year-old senior from billings, majoring in accounting. he also is a student body vice president. each candidate will have one minute to answer a question, then the other candidate we have one minute to respond. a 32nd rebuttal -- 30 second rebuttal will be allowed. each candidate will have two minutes for a closing statement. before we go to the questions, we all ask you hold your applause until off the closing comments. interruptions will eat into the time for the candidates and their responses. we're all here to l
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host: steve in wisconsin. and we are going to move on from steve to thomas in indiana . you're on what is your job situation? caller: my job situation is wonderful. i'm very close to retirement. my wife and i only have so many months of retirement. i've been working just about all my life. i am a baby boomer, so i've seen the ups and downs -- guest: what kind of work do you do? caller: i work for a shipping company. i work for one of the world's largest shipping companies. it was head quartered out in los angeles. we merged with this other large carrier which you all know, a merger back in 1989. so it brought me from chicago to indianapolis which is a strong republican state. and i'm a strong obama person. i work the polls in my district. i'm a democratic judge. but the state of indiana, as i say again, it went blue back in two thorks eight, but right now i don't see that happening again. it was almost a miracle. but one thing about the romney ryan ticket, they stand behind the right to work. and those jobs for right to work are less paying jobs. they may bring more jobs
host: steve in wisconsin. and we are going to move on from steve to thomas in indiana . you're on what is your job situation? caller: my job situation is wonderful. i'm very close to retirement. my wife and i only have so many months of retirement. i've been working just about all my life. i am a baby boomer, so i've seen the ups and downs -- guest: what kind of work do you do? caller: i work for a shipping company. i work for one of the world's largest shipping companies. it was head quartered...
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steve races a fair point. i do think that we will make -- in those circumstances, we would make a major effort. it would fail. one of the reasons, is because, and this is not just theoretical, i had discussions with the saudis, and when the king said if they get it, we get it, i was duty bound to describe what the consequences would be cured and after 10 minutes of being a highly eloquent on this subject, he said to me, if they get it, we get it. there is a reality that they see their main competitor from every standpoint. including a religious standpoint. having an advantage over them. having a technological advantage. having a military advantage. they are not going to accept that. i think the reason our policy is prevention is because we understand what the consequences will be if we do not succeed in maintaining this. that is the point about containment. containment does not prevent the saudis for making this decision to go ahead and do this. and our ability to persuade them along the lines of, look, you ca
steve races a fair point. i do think that we will make -- in those circumstances, we would make a major effort. it would fail. one of the reasons, is because, and this is not just theoretical, i had discussions with the saudis, and when the king said if they get it, we get it, i was duty bound to describe what the consequences would be cured and after 10 minutes of being a highly eloquent on this subject, he said to me, if they get it, we get it. there is a reality that they see their main...
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i'm steve prosinski, editor of the gazette. between denny rehberg and senator john tester a democrat. three veteran montana voters will ask questions. montana public broadcasting and c-span are broadcasting tonight's debate. yellowstone public radio are broadcasting our forum also and the gazette is streaming it live on gazette.com. each candidate will have one minute to answer a question then the other candidate we have one minute to respond. each candidate will have two minutes for a closing statement. before we go to the questions, we all ask you hold your applause until off the closing comments. we're all here to listen to them, not each other. please respect them by holding your applause until the debate has ended thank you. now to the question. we'll start with a question for senator tester. you'll have a minute to respond and representative rehberg will have a minute to comment and senator tester will have 30 seconds for a final response. >> good evening senator tester. i assume on november 6th, you will vote for preside
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and steve gray. and again, we appreciate you so much and all you do to work so hard for our veterans in the state of arkansas. certainly, this is a very critical time for the nation's veterans and it's so important that the legion, it's so important that you're here. don't ever underestimate how important it is here. again, telling your congressmen, your senators, their staffs, which sometimes is even more important, telling their staffs how important these things are as we move forward. i know that all americans are very concerned about employment security. but veterans in particular are struggling with meaningful employment careers. this is certainly a very difficult economy. you mentioned the vow to hire heroes act and the vern skills job act. certainly these are a step in the right direction. and again, everyone deserves credit for moving that forward. yet there is still a number of things we can do and will do in that area. on the other hand, we have to be careful. certainly, we want to do these
and steve gray. and again, we appreciate you so much and all you do to work so hard for our veterans in the state of arkansas. certainly, this is a very critical time for the nation's veterans and it's so important that the legion, it's so important that you're here. don't ever underestimate how important it is here. again, telling your congressmen, your senators, their staffs, which sometimes is even more important, telling their staffs how important these things are as we move forward. i know...
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steve raises what is a very fair point. i do think that we will make -- we would, in those circumstances make a major effort and it would fail. one of the reasons it would fail is because -- and this is not just theoretical. obviously i had discussions with the saudis. and, you know, when they -- when the king said if they get it we get it i was to be about series play with the consequences would be. after ten minutes of being highly eloquent on the subject he then said to me, if they did we get. so there is a reality here that they see their main competitor from every standpoint coming to the religious standpoint having an advantage over them, having to you know, a technological advantage, military advantage, the potential for leverage in the region. they're not trying to accept that. and i think the reason our policy is prevention is because we understand what the consequences will be if we don't succeed in maintaining and producing. that is the point of the containment. containment does not prevent the saudis for making
steve raises what is a very fair point. i do think that we will make -- we would, in those circumstances make a major effort and it would fail. one of the reasons it would fail is because -- and this is not just theoretical. obviously i had discussions with the saudis. and, you know, when they -- when the king said if they get it we get it i was to be about series play with the consequences would be. after ten minutes of being highly eloquent on the subject he then said to me, if they did we...
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steve is right. there's people are not health insurance under obamacare will not be able to continue to have health insurance of montana that says medicaid rules committee prefers to go on medicaid. there's three populations affected here. if you vote in 1138 that are now not eligible for medicaid. a group is under 100% not eligible for medicaid because they don't meet the minimum income sub levels in montana. most of those are single people. to meet the federal standard to buy insurance on the federal exchange, you only have to have $11,190.10. so a minimum-wage job would make it possible to buy insurance on the exchange. they would have private health insurance and maybe it would take it with them, keep it. it had a continuum of care that's a better alternative. the governor said this a bankrupt montana and i think is right. we can adapt this medicaid expansions until we have an understanding of the crossfire. bullock: there is a real possibility for medicaid waivers and things like that and we nee
steve is right. there's people are not health insurance under obamacare will not be able to continue to have health insurance of montana that says medicaid rules committee prefers to go on medicaid. there's three populations affected here. if you vote in 1138 that are now not eligible for medicaid. a group is under 100% not eligible for medicaid because they don't meet the minimum income sub levels in montana. most of those are single people. to meet the federal standard to buy insurance on the...
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it turns out that i think what steve meant he had some interesting ideas. i didn't hear anything from them for many, many weeks, actually. i mean, actually the campaign -- the candidate was on tv one night one day, when i was watching that evening announcing his bid for president. this was around february, i think february 12th. if i remember right. and i watched it on tv. and my phone had been long dead. i thought, that's it. right. and then suddenly the phone starts to ring again and things are happening again. people talking to me. the next thing i know i'm being asked to come to chicago to assess staff. and to evaluate some of the operations and so i thought, this outside good. they offered me a job in management. and i thought, this is great. so i said there's only one thing i have to do there are been something that changed since december 26. i have to talk to my wife. and make sure that she's -- it's a fair affair, and i talked to her and we decided because my wife was now pregnant, and we wanted to make sure everything was okay with the baby. if eve
it turns out that i think what steve meant he had some interesting ideas. i didn't hear anything from them for many, many weeks, actually. i mean, actually the campaign -- the candidate was on tv one night one day, when i was watching that evening announcing his bid for president. this was around february, i think february 12th. if i remember right. and i watched it on tv. and my phone had been long dead. i thought, that's it. right. and then suddenly the phone starts to ring again and things...
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>> steve, i think he touched on the biggest reason why this debate could be more important than these under cards typically are. that is because there is pressure on joe biden to stand and deliver, and to change the narrative from what we've had the last few days. which is a fact given president obama's weak performance in denver, that mitt romney for the first time it seemed a real bump in the polls, and in some states is polling narrowly ahead. so i think biden will try to turn that around, put paul ryan and the gop ticket back on the defensive and at the same time the burden is on trying to keep the mojo going, keep romney's sort of balance here a life released a few more days until the president and mitt romney face off again next week. so i think that's the biggest reason why this thing matters. also one important point and that is this is one of the first perhaps the only campaign where one side is really campaigning against the policies of the other parties vice president as much as they're running against the other party's presidential nominee. paul ryan and his budget proposa
>> steve, i think he touched on the biggest reason why this debate could be more important than these under cards typically are. that is because there is pressure on joe biden to stand and deliver, and to change the narrative from what we've had the last few days. which is a fact given president obama's weak performance in denver, that mitt romney for the first time it seemed a real bump in the polls, and in some states is polling narrowly ahead. so i think biden will try to turn that...
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we look at steve camp or jack kemp. in 96, did he drown out voters? no, he may spending his own money, all you could do at that time on his own campaign made it more possible that bob dole might do so that other gop candidates in the race got heard from. everybody did. we go back to the last election before the passage of the campaign act of 1968. mccarthy got his campaign running in a weakened because a bunch of people given 10 million bucks, which you can't do. did that drown people out or did that make to that drown people out or did that make >> well, clearly, no lack of disagreement on >> well, clearly, no lack of disagreement on this panel. i do want to go back to you, ken. you've been looking not tracking the money. in addition to these questions of how much influence individuals have come and there's so question of what the state of play. one of the thinkers interested in a something you wrote about, that george soros warned the bible or virtual bible that he wouldn't donate to the super pac and he decided to. so what do you think is changing,
we look at steve camp or jack kemp. in 96, did he drown out voters? no, he may spending his own money, all you could do at that time on his own campaign made it more possible that bob dole might do so that other gop candidates in the race got heard from. everybody did. we go back to the last election before the passage of the campaign act of 1968. mccarthy got his campaign running in a weakened because a bunch of people given 10 million bucks, which you can't do. did that drown people out or...
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i'm not talking about steve jobs. steve jobs. all in on the fact, steve jobs, you name it. we invest more capital equipment. we have a good rule of law, no longer the best. we still have a work ethic bear. if you're going to invest one place in this planet, it would be here. so we've got to get beyond. we don't have the divine right to success. we got to get immigration rights, fiscal policy right, otherwise it's another gift call shale oil. my god, the most profligate energy nation the planet. kaaba tenants that i know you miss it all that energy. were going to give you one more shot. let's hope you do this one right. so we have a problem. we should diagnose the problem. if you look at america today, why are we going to 2%? this one i can't prove. but i believe that europe isn't going to sink us, but there's a huge wet blanket out here in the wet blanket to name resolving uncertainty, real insurgency on taxes, policies, fiscal cliff. we have this constant business, not just a minute, the regulatory bee gees. i travel around america. wherever i go come businesspeople are fa
i'm not talking about steve jobs. steve jobs. all in on the fact, steve jobs, you name it. we invest more capital equipment. we have a good rule of law, no longer the best. we still have a work ethic bear. if you're going to invest one place in this planet, it would be here. so we've got to get beyond. we don't have the divine right to success. we got to get immigration rights, fiscal policy right, otherwise it's another gift call shale oil. my god, the most profligate energy nation the planet....
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we go back further, look at steve kemp -- jack kemp -- not jack kemp. steve forbes. and 96. bd drown out voters? no. emits been his own money which is all you can do at that time on his own campaign, made it more possible that bob dole might lose a other gop candidates in that race got heard from everybody. we go way back to the last election before the passage of the federal election campaign act 1968. did not drown people out or did that make people hurt? i think what you find it makes people heard. >> clearly no list is agreement on the panel, i do want to go back to you, kim, because you been looking at tracking the money. in addition to these questions of how much influence individuals have, there's also questions of what the state of play is. one of the things i was interested in, this came something you wrote about, nick, george soros said, he swore the the bible or virtual bible that he wouldn't donate to super pac, and he decided to. so what do you think is changing, can come in the game right now terms of this election and setting precedent for super elections abou
we go back further, look at steve kemp -- jack kemp -- not jack kemp. steve forbes. and 96. bd drown out voters? no. emits been his own money which is all you can do at that time on his own campaign, made it more possible that bob dole might lose a other gop candidates in that race got heard from everybody. we go way back to the last election before the passage of the federal election campaign act 1968. did not drown people out or did that make people hurt? i think what you find it makes people...
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and there was also a chicago council poll that steve did in june 2012. 's web a little bit of a sense of comparison. so clued one of the things we're interested in finding out is how the public is internalizing what seem to be sweeping demonstrations initially, it looked like they had used support and they were very violent, serving in libya and egypt in august a lot of commentary with those people. so we can't have an idea of what the american people -- do they see this as, do they see the violent attacks take against the embassies to be supported by majorities of arabs and muslims, or by minorities? and that was really the first question that we had about that attacks in libya and in egypt. so thinking about that attacks in egypt and libya for each country would you say the violent attacks were only supported by extremist minorities or they were supported by majorities of the population? both egypt and libya. you can see he really large majorities, 63% on egypt, 61 on libya coming believe that these violent attacks were only supported by extremist mino
and there was also a chicago council poll that steve did in june 2012. 's web a little bit of a sense of comparison. so clued one of the things we're interested in finding out is how the public is internalizing what seem to be sweeping demonstrations initially, it looked like they had used support and they were very violent, serving in libya and egypt in august a lot of commentary with those people. so we can't have an idea of what the american people -- do they see this as, do they see the...
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and you are right, steve. that's an opening for joe biden. >> caller: that's right. >> bill: so i think on issue after issue after issue, joe biden is going to say wait a minute mitt this about health care, and now he is saying this. on jobs he said this. now he is saying this. on tax he said this now he is saying that. there is so many opportunities there. in chino, california hello geno. >> caller: good morning. i don't think it's going to do the democrats any good, unless obama has a stellar performance himself. they are going to be looking at whether or not he is going to be strong and come out with a good performance, because if obama do a bad performance, this debate tonight ain't going to matter. >> bill: yeah i agree and disagree, i guess, gene. you are right, the second presidential debate is more important than this debate tonight. but the debate tonight is important given the fact that obama didn't do so well and given the fact that mitt romney told so many lies the last time around. that this debat
and you are right, steve. that's an opening for joe biden. >> caller: that's right. >> bill: so i think on issue after issue after issue, joe biden is going to say wait a minute mitt this about health care, and now he is saying this. on jobs he said this. now he is saying this. on tax he said this now he is saying that. there is so many opportunities there. in chino, california hello geno. >> caller: good morning. i don't think it's going to do the democrats any good, unless...
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what does "snl"," steve colbert and jimmy fallen have to say about it? when it doesn't fit anywhere else we put it in the viewfinder viewfinder. >> according to 70 million people watched wednesday's debate on tv, online or from one of the podiums. >> everybody here is incredible professionals, such great friends and perform flawlessly night after night. i can't always say the same. >> mr. president. >> i'm sorry yeah, yeah, what's up. >> mr. president, governor romney has just said that he killed osama bin laden. would you care to respond. >> no, you two go ahead. >> i think went on thinking this was going to be a discussion on the country's future and he was confronted by this performance on the other side gantry-esque. >> elmer. >> who is this elmer gantry, and what do you really know about him? his background, his reputation? what does he want? money? my job? you? what. >> that's a bit of a stretch my gosh, elmer gantry was a creek. >> elmer gantry was an all american boy. >> this debate was right in his whole house soul-crushing bore dumb. it was so
what does "snl"," steve colbert and jimmy fallen have to say about it? when it doesn't fit anywhere else we put it in the viewfinder viewfinder. >> according to 70 million people watched wednesday's debate on tv, online or from one of the podiums. >> everybody here is incredible professionals, such great friends and perform flawlessly night after night. i can't always say the same. >> mr. president. >> i'm sorry yeah, yeah, what's up. >> mr....
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. >> bill: steve jobs would not like it either. >> i think you might be right. >> bill: all right. yes, indeed look the news of the day we have already had calls and emails about it. obama supporters are panic over the latest pew poll. the poll this morning shows that among likely voters since last week's debate mitt romney has soared -- well, he has bounced at least and he is up four points now. 49-45 over president obama, again, according to the pew research center among registered voters it's 46-46. here is my take on this. don't panic. okay? ing don't panic. it is not all over. some people think it is and not the case. let us remind ourselves, and just step back here for a second, what this really does mean. first of all i have to -- i -- i have to laugh remembering that just a week or so ago, before the debate when every one of the national polls showed president obama up by three, four, five, six, seven points. republicans were running around saying polls don't matter. these polls don't mean anything right. now there's one poll that goes the other way, and the top headline is
. >> bill: steve jobs would not like it either. >> i think you might be right. >> bill: all right. yes, indeed look the news of the day we have already had calls and emails about it. obama supporters are panic over the latest pew poll. the poll this morning shows that among likely voters since last week's debate mitt romney has soared -- well, he has bounced at least and he is up four points now. 49-45 over president obama, again, according to the pew research center among...
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steve things, one, heading into the defense industry and the stealing stuff that is costing us hundreds of billions of dollars to develop a new fighter , submarine. stealing that and they then have all of that technology. the second thing the arguing, and we aren't sure why, is there are getting in and hacking and snooping around all of our computer systems. looking at the electric grid, the water supply system. gerri: this does not make me feel good. >> you don't know why they're doing it. did they use it in some kind of warfare situation? that some point the mere threat of saying we could shut down the electric grid on the east coast of the united states. we don't want you to do a darn thing when we take over taiwan. >> the big 2003 blackout in the northeast, some people say it was triggered by a chinese actor who made a mistake. fifty americans died that time. also, a florida black of the some people attribute to china. they're going after the infrastructure backbone in the united states because in a wartime scenario it would be very useful to be able to shut down like. >> they would
steve things, one, heading into the defense industry and the stealing stuff that is costing us hundreds of billions of dollars to develop a new fighter , submarine. stealing that and they then have all of that technology. the second thing the arguing, and we aren't sure why, is there are getting in and hacking and snooping around all of our computer systems. looking at the electric grid, the water supply system. gerri: this does not make me feel good. >> you don't know why they're doing...
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steve centanni's live in washington with more on this. steve, what exactly is the irs saying about solyndra now? >> reporter: well, jenna, they're suggesting the bankruptcy plan for solyndra's really an elaborate scheme to avoid paying hundreds of millions in federal taxes. solyndra, as you know, failed after getting that huge government loan and filed for bankruptcy last year. irs lawyers filed a document in federal court opposing a bankruptcy settlement claiming the plan would result in net operating losses that could be used to offset future taxable income. the irs saying that plan would, would create a holding company -- it would have no employees and no business operations, but it would enjoy up to $350 million in those tax breaks that solyndra's investors could use. and one of those investors is argonaut ventures, linked to billionaire george kaiser, a prominent democratic fundraiser. jenna? jenna: we'll watch for the next chapter in that, steve. there's apparently another solar company in the news today? is. >> reporter: right. yes
steve centanni's live in washington with more on this. steve, what exactly is the irs saying about solyndra now? >> reporter: well, jenna, they're suggesting the bankruptcy plan for solyndra's really an elaborate scheme to avoid paying hundreds of millions in federal taxes. solyndra, as you know, failed after getting that huge government loan and filed for bankruptcy last year. irs lawyers filed a document in federal court opposing a bankruptcy settlement claiming the plan would result in...
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steve hayes for standtand. mara liasson, national political correspondent of national public radio and syndicat columnist, charles krthamr. siioodri awhouusch context. >> i think the timeline that you just played is absolutely jaw-dropping. there are so many times that the administration makes claims that are inconsistent withne ather and incoisteitati th ground truth behind the attack. we saw examples throughout the hearing today. one interrogation by congressman james langford of oklahoma. he was talking to a senior state department official, setyrein cef whshasha eng ghof the attack, september 11. who she was talking to, what she was doing. she answered him in some detail. i was here in the united states new york contactith people on ground. as all of the attacks we fog. tdheht ttoemn . inaihabout precisely had happened. langford skillfully then turned to her and said how is it that you were in conta with the people on the ground as this was happeni iniv seg coyalt different story. what makes this even more
steve hayes for standtand. mara liasson, national political correspondent of national public radio and syndicat columnist, charles krthamr. siioodri awhouusch context. >> i think the timeline that you just played is absolutely jaw-dropping. there are so many times that the administration makes claims that are inconsistent withne ather and incoisteitati th ground truth behind the attack. we saw examples throughout the hearing today. one interrogation by congressman james langford of...
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and steve moore senior enomic writer for the "wall streoual" aur faismll." ihe no if u can question the business practices of somebody who builds a 35 or $45 million house that is supposed to be a copy of versailles. the reason we brought this u is beuse it raiseshe qstio thng b aoss toountry as they head towards the election. >> i don't think it's appropriate for employers to bully their employees in terms of what they vote for and i don't think that's what was happening here. i tnk it's quite aropriate for employers to educate tir rkuthemcaon rensigaxes. alot ohis show about when you talk about taxing the top 1, or 2 or 3% that those tend to be the employers in the country. i'll tell you thi also, martha aroulk to a lot of employers hi n isolated. i talked to guy who owns 50 fast-food restaurants. he says the obama healthcare is going to cost him $11,000 more a itngtilr eloe. aroutfs. relaondaxes have and i do think they reduce employment. >> matt, david siegel says this. he says we pay state taxes, federal sacksess, property taxes, sale and use taxes. wor
and steve moore senior enomic writer for the "wall streoual" aur faismll." ihe no if u can question the business practices of somebody who builds a 35 or $45 million house that is supposed to be a copy of versailles. the reason we brought this u is beuse it raiseshe qstio thng b aoss toountry as they head towards the election. >> i don't think it's appropriate for employers to bully their employees in terms of what they vote for and i don't think that's what was happening...
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diplomat arrived in libya to take the place of christopher steves. that as criticism mounts over the obama administration protected the americans in that country. the obama campaign is calling all of the criticism political. >> the entire reason that this has become the political topic it is is because of mitt romney and paul ryan. it's a big part of their stump speech. and as reckless and irresponsible. >> bill: with all due respect to her, that's more bologna than you could possibly fit on any sandwich. joinings from washington, fox news analyst, laura ingraham. here is a question going forward. i just want to explain if the folks did not see my talking points memo on the libyan situation, i hope that they go to billoreilly.com and look at it because there is no doubt -- stephanie cutter can stand there all day long and jump up and down. there is no doubt this is a mess. the administration mishandled it from the time they with drew the security teams out of there to the time it happened, to the time they miscategorized why it happened. >> until tod
diplomat arrived in libya to take the place of christopher steves. that as criticism mounts over the obama administration protected the americans in that country. the obama campaign is calling all of the criticism political. >> the entire reason that this has become the political topic it is is because of mitt romney and paul ryan. it's a big part of their stump speech. and as reckless and irresponsible. >> bill: with all due respect to her, that's more bologna than you could...
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let's bring in the whiter for the weekly standard, steve hayes and former campaign manager, joe trippi. we were discussing whether joe biden was having an al gore moment, going to far with the smirking. joe? >> i think he had a very strong debate. but was diminished, i thought, personally, was diminished by the smirking. i think, look, he surprised me on how aggressive he was and undefensive on the economy, bringing up the 47%. i was very surprised though about how strong ryan was on foreign policy. it's going to be interesting how this plays out because i think, i think women were up for grabbed here. i think biden really scored points. but the last thing we need is another ground war in the middle-east. there were different issues where he really pushed hard. but i don't know know about the likeability and how he over had did, i found it condescending. >> steve? >> there was a moment, talk about this demeanor, there was a mome at the very end, maybe when the most voters were not paying attention, paul ryan started his closing statement and gave what i thought was a sincere thank you
let's bring in the whiter for the weekly standard, steve hayes and former campaign manager, joe trippi. we were discussing whether joe biden was having an al gore moment, going to far with the smirking. joe? >> i think he had a very strong debate. but was diminished, i thought, personally, was diminished by the smirking. i think, look, he surprised me on how aggressive he was and undefensive on the economy, bringing up the 47%. i was very surprised though about how strong ryan was on...
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steve, gretchen, brian, back to you in new york. >> steve: that is so true. thank you very much for getting up with us today. >> gretchen: now it's finally time to bring in geraldo who has been patiently sitting. >> good morning. >> gretchen: what did you think of the interruptus fest? >> you know, steve brown just said that generally speaking, vice presidential debates don't move the needle very much. i only disagree to this extent. i think what joe biden did last night was stop the needle from plummeting any further on the democratic side because it was in free fall following the president's woeful performance last week. >> steve: you know what? he seemed to have gone from joe biden gaffe machine to joe biden laugh machine. when paul ryan was talk being very serious things like libya and poor people being murdered over there, the vice president of the us husband a great big goofy grin on his face and it was so unsettling and people at home are going, wait a minute. he's our current vice president? >> you know, i used the baseball game that was on, the yanke
steve, gretchen, brian, back to you in new york. >> steve: that is so true. thank you very much for getting up with us today. >> gretchen: now it's finally time to bring in geraldo who has been patiently sitting. >> good morning. >> gretchen: what did you think of the interruptus fest? >> you know, steve brown just said that generally speaking, vice presidential debates don't move the needle very much. i only disagree to this extent. i think what joe biden did last...
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steve hayes and joe trippi. on the set, we were discussing whether -- joe biden was having an al gore moment. did he go too far with the smirking, such that the substance will be undermined? >> i think he had a very strong debate. but was diminished, i thought was diminished by the smirking and he overdid t. i think, look, he surprised me on how aggressive and defensive on the economy, bringing up the 47%. i was very surprised, though, about how strong ryan was on foreign policy. it's going to be interesting how this plays out because i think... i think women were up for grabs here. i think that biden really scored points that the last thing we need is another ground war in the middle-east. there were different issues where i think he really pushed hard. but i don't know about the likeability of the smirking ando -- how he over did, i found it condescending and overdone. >> there was a moment, talking about the dimeanor, there was a moment at the very end, maybe when most voters weren't play paying attention, pa
steve hayes and joe trippi. on the set, we were discussing whether -- joe biden was having an al gore moment. did he go too far with the smirking, such that the substance will be undermined? >> i think he had a very strong debate. but was diminished, i thought was diminished by the smirking and he overdid t. i think, look, he surprised me on how aggressive and defensive on the economy, bringing up the 47%. i was very surprised, though, about how strong ryan was on foreign policy. it's...